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Help, Support, and Mailing Lists # Help, Support, and Mailing Lists #
================================
Help and support for Qubes OS is available from the [documentation] and the Help and support for Qubes OS is available from the [documentation] and the
[mailing lists], which are explained below. The Qubes OS Project does not offer [mailing lists], which are explained below. The Qubes OS Project does not offer
paid support services. paid support services.
Staying safe ## Staying safe ##
------------
The Qubes mailing lists are open to the public. The contents of the list are The Qubes mailing lists are open to the public. The contents of the list are
crawled by search engines and archived by third-party services outside of our crawled by search engines and archived by third-party services outside of our
@ -58,8 +56,7 @@ cryptographically signed, anyone would be in a position to [verify] that these
came from the same keyholder. came from the same keyholder.
Discussion list guidelines ## Discussion list guidelines ##
--------------------------
Qubes discussions mainly take place on two mailing lists: `qubes-users` and Qubes discussions mainly take place on two mailing lists: `qubes-users` and
`qubes-devel`, both of which are explained below. Please send all questions `qubes-devel`, both of which are explained below. Please send all questions
@ -81,174 +78,182 @@ guidelines.
### Be polite and respectful ### ### Be polite and respectful ###
Remember, no one here is under any obligation Remember, no one here is under any obligation
to reply to you. Think about your readers. Most of them are coming home after to reply to you. Think about your readers. Most of them are coming home after
a long, hard day at work. The last thing they need is someone's temper a long, hard day at work. The last thing they need is someone's temper
tantrum in their inboxes. If you are rude and disrespectful, you are very tantrum in their inboxes. If you are rude and disrespectful, you are very
likely to be ignored. likely to be ignored.
### Be concise ### ### Be concise ###
Include only essential information. Most of your readers lead Include only essential information. Most of your readers lead
busy lives and have precious little time. We *want* to spend some of that busy lives and have precious little time. We *want* to spend some of that
time helping you, if we can. But if you ramble, it will be easier to skip time helping you, if we can. But if you ramble, it will be easier to skip
over you and help someone else who gets right to the point. over you and help someone else who gets right to the point.
### Help us help you ### ### Help us help you ###
Tell us what you've already tried, and which Tell us what you've already tried, and which
documentation pages you've already read. Put yourself in your readers' shoes. documentation pages you've already read. Put yourself in your readers' shoes.
What essential information would they require in order to be able to help What essential information would they require in order to be able to help
you? Make sure to include that information in your message. [Ask you? Make sure to include that information in your message. [Ask
questions the smart way.][smart-questions] questions the smart way.][smart-questions]
### Be patient ### ### Be patient ###
Do not "bump" a thread more than once every three days *at Do not "bump" a thread more than once every three days *at
most*. If it seems like your messages to the mailing lists are consistently most*. If it seems like your messages to the mailing lists are consistently
being ignored, make sure you're following the guidelines explained on this being ignored, make sure you're following the guidelines explained on this
page. If you're already doing so but still not getting any replies, then it's page. If you're already doing so but still not getting any replies, then it's
likely that no one who knows the answer has had time to reply yet. Remember likely that no one who knows the answer has had time to reply yet. Remember
that the devs are very busy working on Qubes. They usually only have a chance that the devs are very busy working on Qubes. They usually only have a chance
to answer questions on the mailing lists once every several days. to answer questions on the mailing lists once every several days.
### Be a good community member ### ### Be a good community member ###
As with any social community, members of the As with any social community, members of the
mailing list earn different reputations for themselves over time. We want the mailing list earn different reputations for themselves over time. We want the
mailing lists to be a friendly, productive place where information and ideas mailing lists to be a friendly, productive place where information and ideas
are exchanged for the mutual benefit of all. We understand that the best way are exchanged for the mutual benefit of all. We understand that the best way
to achieve this is to encourage and cultivate other like-minded individuals. to achieve this is to encourage and cultivate other like-minded individuals.
Those who have shown themselves to be good community members through their Those who have shown themselves to be good community members through their
past contributions have earned our good will, and we will be especially eager past contributions have earned our good will, and we will be especially eager
to help them and collaborate with them. If you are new to the community, you to help them and collaborate with them. If you are new to the community, you
should understand that it will take time for you to earn the good will of should understand that it will take time for you to earn the good will of
others. This does not mean that you will not receive help. On the contrary, others. This does not mean that you will not receive help. On the contrary,
we are fortunate to have such a helpful and understanding community that many we are fortunate to have such a helpful and understanding community that many
of them spend hours of their personal time helping complete strangers, of them spend hours of their personal time helping complete strangers,
including many who post to the lists anonymously. (Given the integration of including many who post to the lists anonymously. (Given the integration of
Qubes with [Whonix], we understand better than most the complexities of Qubes with [Whonix], we understand better than most the complexities of
privacy and anonymity, and we know that many users have no other choice but privacy and anonymity, and we know that many users have no other choice but
to post anonymously.) You can read our project's [Code of Conduct][coc] for to post anonymously.) You can read our project's [Code of Conduct][coc] for
more information. more information.
### Report issues and submit changes in the right places ### ### Report issues and submit changes in the right places ###
The mailing lists a good place to ask questions and discuss bugs and feature The mailing lists a good place to ask questions and discuss bugs and feature
requests. However, if you're submitting a more formal report, we'd prefer requests. However, if you're submitting a more formal report, we'd prefer
that you submit it to our [issue tracker] so that it doesn't get overlooked. that you submit it to our [issue tracker] so that it doesn't get overlooked.
Likewise, if you see that something in the documentation should be changed, Likewise, if you see that something in the documentation should be changed,
don't simply point it out in an email to one of the mailing lists. Instead, don't simply point it out in an email to one of the mailing lists. Instead,
[submit the change][contributing to the documentation]. [submit the change][contributing to the documentation].
### Specific rules and notes ### ### Specific rules and notes ###
#### Use the correct list #### #### Use the correct list ####
Send your message to the correct list. Read the sections below to determine Send your message to the correct list. Read the sections below to determine
which list is correct for your message. which list is correct for your message.
#### Do not top-post #### #### Do not top-post ####
[Top-posting] is placing your reply above the quoted message to which you're [Top-posting] is placing your reply above the quoted message to which you're
replying. Please refrain from doing this. Instead, either [interleave] your replying. Please refrain from doing this. Instead, either [interleave] your
reply by placing parts of your message immediately below each quoted portion reply by placing parts of your message immediately below each quoted portion
to which it is replying, or [bottom-post] by placing your entire reply below to which it is replying, or [bottom-post] by placing your entire reply below
the quoted message to which you're replying. the quoted message to which you're replying.
#### Use proper subject lines #### #### Use proper subject lines ####
Include a precise and informative subject line. This will allow others to Include a precise and informative subject line. This will allow others to
easily find your thread in the future and use it as a reference. (Bad: "Help! easily find your thread in the future and use it as a reference. (Bad: "Help!
Qubes problems!" Good: "R2B2 Installation problem: Apple keyboard not working Qubes problems!" Good: "R2B2 Installation problem: Apple keyboard not working
in installer.") in installer.")
#### Do not send duplicates #### #### Do not send duplicates ####
If your message is not successfully sent to the list, it probably got caught If your message is not successfully sent to the list, it probably got caught
in the spam filter. We check the spam filter regularly, so please be patient, in the spam filter. We check the spam filter regularly, so please be patient,
and your message should be approved (and your email address added to the and your message should be approved (and your email address added to the
whitelist) within a few days. whitelist) within a few days.
#### Keep the list CCed #### #### Keep the list CCed ####
Keep the mailing list CCed throughout the conversation unless there's a Keep the mailing list CCed throughout the conversation unless there's a
special need for privacy (in which case, use PGP encryption). This increases special need for privacy (in which case, use PGP encryption). This increases
the likelihood that a greater quantity of useful information will be the likelihood that a greater quantity of useful information will be
available to everyone in the future. available to everyone in the future.
#### Quote appropriately #### #### Quote appropriately ####
If you're replying to a thread (whether your own or If you're replying to a thread (whether your own or
someone else's), you should make sure to quote enough from previous messages someone else's), you should make sure to quote enough from previous messages
in the thread so that people reading your message can understand the context in the thread so that people reading your message can understand the context
without having to find and read earlier messages from that thread. Each reply without having to find and read earlier messages from that thread. Each reply
should continue the conversation and, ideally, be readable as a conversation should continue the conversation and, ideally, be readable as a conversation
in itself. Do not quote advertisements in signatures or inline PGP signature in itself. Do not quote advertisements in signatures or inline PGP signature
blocks. (Quoting the latter interferes with the ability of programs like blocks. (Quoting the latter interferes with the ability of programs like
Enigmail to properly quote replies thereafter). Enigmail to properly quote replies thereafter).
#### English not required #### #### English not required ####
If you do not speak English, you should feel free to post in your own If you do not speak English, you should feel free to post in your own
language. However, bear in mind that most members of the list can only read language. However, bear in mind that most members of the list can only read
English. You may wish to include an automated translation in your message out English. You may wish to include an automated translation in your message out
of consideration for those readers. If you choose to write in English, please of consideration for those readers. If you choose to write in English, please
do not apologize for doing so poorly, as it is unnecessary. We understand and do not apologize for doing so poorly, as it is unnecessary. We understand and
will ask for clarification if needed. will ask for clarification if needed.
#### Suggestions #### #### Suggestions ####
While we're generally open to hearing suggestions for new features, please While we're generally open to hearing suggestions for new features, please
note that we already have a pretty well defined [roadmap], and it's rather note that we already have a pretty well defined [roadmap], and it's rather
unlikely that we will change our schedule in order to accommodate your unlikely that we will change our schedule in order to accommodate your
request. If there's a particular feature you'd like to see in Qubes, a much request. If there's a particular feature you'd like to see in Qubes, a much
more effective way to make it happen is to contribute a patch that implements more effective way to make it happen is to contribute a patch that implements
it. We happily accept such contributions, provided they meet our standards. it. We happily accept such contributions, provided they meet our standards.
Please note, however, that it's always a good idea to field a discussion of Please note, however, that it's always a good idea to field a discussion of
your idea on the `qubes-devel` list before putting in a lot of hard work on your idea on the `qubes-devel` list before putting in a lot of hard work on
something that we may not be able or willing to accept. something that we may not be able or willing to accept.
#### Mailing lists vs. forums #### #### Mailing lists vs. forums ####
While the mailing lists are implemented as Google Group web forums, a Google While the mailing lists are implemented as Google Group web forums, a Google
account is in no way required, expected, or encouraged. Many discussants account is in no way required, expected, or encouraged. Many discussants
(including most members of the Qubes team) treat these lists as conventional (including most members of the Qubes team) treat these lists as conventional
[mailing lists], interacting with them solely through plain text email with [mailing lists], interacting with them solely through plain text email with
[MUAs] like [Thunderbird] and [Mutt]. The Google Groups service is just [MUAs] like [Thunderbird] and [Mutt]. The Google Groups service is just
free infrastructure, and we [distrust the infrastructure]. This is why, for free infrastructure, and we [distrust the infrastructure]. This is why, for
example, we encourage discussants to use [Split GPG] to sign all of their example, we encourage discussants to use [Split GPG] to sign all of their
messages to the lists, but we do not endorse the use of these Google Groups messages to the lists, but we do not endorse the use of these Google Groups
as web forums. (There have been many discussions about why the Qubes OS as web forums. Some users prefer to interact with the mailing lists through
Project does not maintain a forum. The curious can find these by searching their optional web interfaces. This has the advantage that it allows you to
the list archives.) search and reply to messages which were sent prior to your subscription to
the list. However, a Google account is required in order to post through the
web interfaces. (Note: There have been many discussions about why the Qubes
OS Project does not maintain a forum. The curious can find these by searching
the list archives.)
#### Gmane ####
Qubes mailing lists are also available via Gmane, a service that provides mailing lists in the form of newsgroups.
This makes it possible for you to subscribe and read all mails sent to the list without having them all sent to your normal mail account.
To use Gmane, you need a newsreader such as [Thunderbird].
To add Gmane's server to Thunderbird, follow the instructions in [Mozilla Thunderbird's documentation for how to add newsgroups][thunderbird-newsgroup].
In the fourth step replace `news.mozilla.org` with `news.gmane.org`.
To subscribe to a list, click **Subscribe...** and search for the newsgroup `gmane.os.qubes.<list>`, for example, [`gmane.os.qubes.user`].
Check the box beside the name and click **OK**.
You can now send and reply to mails the same way you would normally.
To unsubscribe from the list, click **Subscribe...** and search for the newsgroup `gmane.os.qubes.<list>`, for example, [`gmane.os.qubes.user`].
Uncheck the box beside the name and click **OK**.
Thunderbird will automatically remove the newsgroup.
qubes-announce ## qubes-announce ##
--------------
This is a read-only list for those who wish to receive only very important, This is a read-only list for those who wish to receive only very important,
infrequent messages. Only the core Qubes team can post to this list, and only infrequent messages. Only the core Qubes team can post to this list, and only
[Qubes Security Bulletins (QSBs)][qsb] and new Qubes OS releases are announced [Qubes Security Bulletins (QSBs)][qsb] and new Qubes OS releases are announced
here. here.
### How to subscribe To subscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-announce+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
(Note: A Google account is *not* required. Any email address will work.)
#### Google Groups To unsubscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-announce+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
This list also has an optional [Google Groups web interface][qubes-announce-web].
* To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to
`qubes-announce+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: A Gmail account is *not* required. Any email address will work.
* To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
`qubes-announce+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* This list can also be browsed via an optional [Google Groups web
interface][qubes-announce-web].
qubes-users ## qubes-users ##
-----------
### How to use this list
This list is for helping users solve various daily problems with Qubes OS. This list is for helping users solve various daily problems with Qubes OS.
Examples of topics or questions suitable for this list include: Examples of topics or questions suitable for this list include:
@ -258,8 +263,6 @@ Examples of topics or questions suitable for this list include:
* Hardware compatibility problems * Hardware compatibility problems
* Questions of the form: "How do I...?" * Questions of the form: "How do I...?"
### Read these first
Please try searching both the Qubes website and the archives of the mailing Please try searching both the Qubes website and the archives of the mailing
lists before sending a question. In addition, please make sure that you have lists before sending a question. In addition, please make sure that you have
read and understood the following basic documentation prior to posting to the read and understood the following basic documentation prior to posting to the
@ -270,55 +273,17 @@ list:
* The [User FAQ] * The [User FAQ]
* The [documentation] (for questions about how to use Qubes OS) * The [documentation] (for questions about how to use Qubes OS)
### How to subscribe and post You don't have to subscribe in order to post to this list.
However, subscribing makes your messages less likely to be marked as spam and allows you to receive messages sent directly to the list.
#### Google Groups To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to `qubes-users+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
(Note: A Google account is *not* required. Any email address will work.)
You don't have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, subscribing To post a message to the list, address your email to `qubes-users@googlegroups.com`.
might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be If your post does not appear immediately, please allow time for moderation to occur.
eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to receive messages which To unsubscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
were sent directly to the list. This list also has an optional [Google Groups web interface][qubes-users-web] and [traditional mail archive][qubes-users-archive].
* To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to
`qubes-users+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: A Gmail account is *not* required. Any email address will work.
* To post a message to the list, address your email to
`qubes-users@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: You don't have to be subscribed in order to post.
* To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
`qubes-users+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* This list also has a [Google Groups web interface][qubes-users-web].
* Some users prefer to interact with the mailing list through the web
interface. This has the advantage that it allows you to search and reply to
messages which were sent prior to your subscription to the list. However, a
Google account is required in order to post through this interface.
* You can also search the [traditional mail archive][qubes-users-archive]
#### Gmane
The mailing list is also available via Gmane, a service that provides mailing
lists in the form of newsgroups. This makes it possible for you to subscribe
and read all mails sent to the list without having them all sent to your normal
mail account. To use Gmane, you need a newsreader such as [Thunderbird].
To add Gmane's server to Thunderbird, follow the instructions in
[Mozilla Thunderbird's documentation for how to add
newsgroups][thunderbird-newsgroup].
In the fourth step replace `news.mozilla.org` with `news.gmane.org`.
* To subscribe to the list, click on **Subscribe...** and search for the
newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.user`]. Click on the checkbox besides the name
and **OK**.
* You send and reply to mails the same way you would normally.
* To unsubscribe from the list, click on **Subscribe...**
search for the newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.user`], uncheck the checkbox, and
click on **OK**. Thunderbird will automatically remove the newsgroup.
qubes-devel ## qubes-devel ##
-----------
### How to use this list
This list is primarily intended for people who are interested in contributing to This list is primarily intended for people who are interested in contributing to
Qubes or who are willing to learn more about its architecture and Qubes or who are willing to learn more about its architecture and
@ -332,112 +297,38 @@ implementation. Examples of topics and questions suitable for this list include:
* Contributed code and patches. * Contributed code and patches.
* Security discussions which are relevant to Qubes in some way. * Security discussions which are relevant to Qubes in some way.
### How to subscribe and post
#### Google Groups
You must be subscribed in order to post to this list. You must be subscribed in order to post to this list.
To subscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-devel+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to (Note: A Google account is *not* required. Any email address will work.)
`qubes-devel+subscribe@googlegroups.com`. To post a message to the list, address your email to `qubes-devel@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: A Gmail account is *not* required. Any email address will work. If your post does not appear immediately, please allow time for moderation to occur.
* To post a message to the list, address your email to To unsubscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-devel+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
`qubes-devel@googlegroups.com`. This list also has an optional [Google Groups web interface][qubes-devel-web] and [traditional mail archive][qubes-devel-archive].
* Note: You must be subscribed in order to post. If your post does not
appear, please allow time for moderation to occur.
* To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
`qubes-devel+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* This list has a [Google Groups web interface][qubes-devel-web].
* Some users prefer to interact with the mailing list through the web
interface. This has the advantage that it allows you to search and reply to
messages which were sent prior to your subscription to the list. However, a
Google account is required in order to post through this interface.
* You can also search the [traditional mail archive][qubes-devel-archive]
#### Gmane
The mailing list is also available via Gmane, a service that provides mailing
lists in the form of newsgroups. This makes it possible for you to subscribe
and read all mails sent to the list without having them all sent to your normal
mail account. To use Gmane, you need a newsreader such as [Thunderbird].
To add Gmane's server to Thunderbird, follow the instructions in
[Mozilla Thunderbird's documentation for how to add
newsgroups][thunderbird-newsgroup].
In the fourth step replace `news.mozilla.org` with `news.gmane.org`.
* To subscribe to the list, click on **Subscribe...** and search for the
newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.devel`]. Click on the checkbox besides the name
and **OK**.
* You send and reply to mails the same way you would normally.
* To unsubscribe from the list, click on **Subscribe...**
search for the newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.devel`], uncheck the checkbox, and
click on **OK**. Thunderbird will automatically remove the newsgroup.
qubes-project ## qubes-project ##
-------------
### How to use this list
This list is for non-technical discussion and coordination around the This list is for non-technical discussion and coordination around the
Qubes OS project. Qubes OS project.
Examples of topics or question suitable for this list include: Examples of topics or question suitable for this list include:
* Participation (talks, workshops, etc.) at upcoming events * Participation (talks, workshops, etc.) at upcoming events
* Project funding applications and strategies * Project funding applications and strategies
* FOSS governance discussions * FOSS governance discussions
* Most Github issues tagged "[business]" * Most Github issues tagged "[business]"
### How to subscribe and post You don't have to subscribe in order to post to this list.
However, subscribing makes your messages less likely to be marked as spam and allows you to receive messages sent directly to the list.
#### Google Groups To subscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-project+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
(Note: A Google account is *not* required. Any email address will work.)
You don't have to subscribe in order to post to this list. However, subscribing To post a message to the list, address your email to `qubes-project@googlegroups.com`.
might nonetheless be desirable, as it ensures that your messages will not be If your post does not appear immediately, please allow time for moderation to occur.
eaten by the Google Groups spam filter and allows you to receive messages which To unsubscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-project+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
were sent directly to the list. This list also also has an optional [Google Groups web interface][qubes-project-web].
* To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to
`qubes-project+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: A Gmail account is *not* required. Any email address will work.
* To post a message to the list, address your email to
`qubes-project@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: You don't have to be subscribed in order to post.
* To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
`qubes-project+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* This list also has a [Google Groups web interface][qubes-project-web].
* Some users prefer to interact with the mailing list through the web
interface. This has the advantage that it allows you to search and reply to
messages which were sent prior to your subscription to the list. However, a
Google account is required in order to post through this interface.
#### Gmane
The mailing list is also available via Gmane, a service that provides mailing
lists in the form of newsgroups. This makes it possible for you to subscribe
and read all mails sent to the list without having them all sent to your normal
mail account. To use Gmane, you need a newsreader such as [Thunderbird].
To add Gmane's server to Thunderbird, follow the instructions in
[Mozilla Thunderbird's documentation for how to add
newsgroups][thunderbird-newsgroup].
In the fourth step replace `news.mozilla.org` with `news.gmane.org`.
* To subscribe to the list, click on **Subscribe...** and search for the
newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.project`]. Click on the checkbox besides the name
and **OK**.
* You send and reply to mails the same way you would normally.
* To unsubscribe from the list, click on **Subscribe...**
search for the newsgroup [`gmane.os.qubes.project`], uncheck the checkbox, and
click on **OK**. Thunderbird will automatically remove the newsgroup.
qubes-translation ## qubes-translation ##
-----------------
### How to use this list
This list is for discussion around the localization and translation of Qubes OS, This list is for discussion around the localization and translation of Qubes OS,
its documentation, and the website. its documentation, and the website.
@ -448,25 +339,14 @@ Examples of topics or question suitable for this list include:
* Who is managing localization for a given language * Who is managing localization for a given language
* Most Github issues tagged "[localization]" * Most Github issues tagged "[localization]"
### How to subscribe and post You don't have to subscribe in order to post to this list.
However, subscribing makes your messages less likely to be marked as spam and allows you to receive messages sent directly to the list.
#### Google Groups To subscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-translation+subscribe@googlegroups.com`.
(Note: A Google account is *not* required. Any email address will work.)
You must be subscribed in order to post to this list. To post a message to the list, address your email to `qubes-translation@googlegroups.com`.
If your post does not appear immediately, please allow time for moderation to occur.
* To subscribe to the list, send a blank email to To unsubscribe, send a blank email to `qubes-translation+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
`qubes-translation+subscribe@googlegroups.com`. This list also has an optional [Google Groups web interface][qubes-translation-web].
* Note: A Gmail account is *not* required. Any email address will work.
* To post a message to the list, address your email to
`qubes-translation@googlegroups.com`.
* Note: You don't have to be subscribed in order to post.
* To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
`qubes-translation+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com`.
* This list also has a [Google Groups web interface][qubes-translation-web].
* Some users prefer to interact with the mailing list through the web
interface. This has the advantage that it allows you to search and reply to
messages which were sent prior to your subscription to the list. However, a
Google account is required in order to post through this interface.
[mailing lists]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list [mailing lists]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list