diff --git a/collects/meta/props b/collects/meta/props
index 0bf3d28033..43d13edfe6 100755
--- a/collects/meta/props
+++ b/collects/meta/props
@@ -1822,6 +1822,8 @@ path/s is either such a string or a list of them.
 "collects/tests/racket/path.rktl" drdr:command-line #f
 "collects/tests/racket/pathlib.rktl" drdr:command-line (racket "-f" *)
 "collects/tests/racket/pconvert.rktl" drdr:command-line #f
+"collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand-help.rkt" responsible (tewk)
+"collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand.rkt" responsible (tewk)
 "collects/tests/racket/place-channel.rkt" responsible (tewk) drdr:command-line (racket "-tm" *)
 "collects/tests/racket/place.rktl" responsible (tewk) drdr:command-line (racket "-f" *)
 "collects/tests/racket/port.rktl" drdr:command-line #f
diff --git a/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand-help.rkt b/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand-help.rkt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..df02aaca56
--- /dev/null
+++ b/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand-help.rkt
@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
+#lang racket/base
+(require racket/place)
+(provide start)
+(define (start pch)
+  (let loop ()
+    (place-channel-put pch (place-channel-get pch))
+    (loop)))
+
diff --git a/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand.rkt b/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand.rkt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..940ed750d4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/collects/tests/racket/place-chan-rand.rkt
@@ -0,0 +1,53 @@
+#lang racket/base
+(require racket/place 
+         redex
+         racket/runtime-path)
+
+(define-language L
+  (legal-message m i)
+  
+  (m (vector f ...)
+     (shared-flvector fl ...)
+     (shared-fxvector fx ...)
+     (shared-bytes byte ...)
+     str)
+  
+  (i (cons i i)
+     (vector-immutable i ...)
+     (string->immutable-string str) 
+     f)
+  
+  (f '()
+     #f
+     #t
+     num
+     (string-ref one-len-str 0))
+  (str (string-append one-len-str ...))
+  (one-len-str "a" "b" "λ" "龍")
+  (num fx
+       fl
+       1/2 1/3 1/4
+       (sqrt num)
+       (+ num num)
+       (* num 0+1i)
+       (- num))
+  (fx byte (- byte) (expt 2 32) (expt 2 64) (- (expt 2 32)) (- (expt 2 64)))
+  (fl 1.1 1.2 1.3 0.0 1e12 -1e33 1e-11 -1e-22 +inf.0 -inf.0 +nan.0)
+  (byte 0 1 2 8 100 255))
+  
+(define-runtime-path return-place.rkt "place-chan-rand-help.rkt")
+(define pch (dynamic-place return-place.rkt 'start))
+
+(define ns (make-base-namespace))
+(parameterize ([current-namespace ns])
+  (namespace-require 'racket/flonum)
+  (namespace-require 'racket/fixnum))
+
+(define (try-message msg-code)
+  ;; (printf "trying ~s\n" msg-code) ;; helpful when crashing ...
+  (define msg (eval msg-code ns))
+  (equal? msg (place-channel-put/get pch msg)))
+
+(redex-check L legal-message 
+             (try-message (term legal-message))
+             #:attempts 10000)