diff --git a/test/vector-pass.rkt b/test/vector-pass.rkt
index 1dc6394..a7100f4 100644
--- a/test/vector-pass.rkt
+++ b/test/vector-pass.rkt
@@ -56,4 +56,12 @@
   (check-equal?
     (parse-vector-length #'(build-vector 61 add1))
     61)
+
+  ;; -- vector-length:
+
+  ;; -- define-vector:
+  (let ()
+    (define-vector: v (vector 1 1 2 2))
+    (check-equal? (vector-ref: v 0) 1))
+  ;; -- let-vector:
 )
diff --git a/vector.rkt b/vector.rkt
index 14f50ad..31c8201 100644
--- a/vector.rkt
+++ b/vector.rkt
@@ -1,13 +1,16 @@
 #lang typed/racket/base
 
+;; TODO integrate with trivial/math to get ints from identifiers
+
 (provide
   define-vector:
-  ;let-vector:
+  let-vector:
   ;vector-length:
-  ;vector-ref:
+  vector-ref:
   ;vector-set!:
   ;vector-map:
   ;vector-append:
+  ;vector->list
 
   ;; TODO and a few more
 
@@ -18,6 +21,8 @@
 ;; -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 (require
+  (only-in racket/unsafe/ops
+    unsafe-vector-ref)
   (for-syntax
     typed/racket/base
     syntax/id-table
@@ -27,33 +32,80 @@
 
 ;; =============================================================================
 
-(define-for-syntax vec-length-key 'vector:length)
+(define-for-syntax vector-length-key 'vector:length)
 (define-for-syntax errloc-key 'vector:)
 (define-for-syntax id+vector-length (make-free-id-table))
 
+(begin-for-syntax (define-syntax-class literal-vector
+  #:attributes (vector-length)
+  (pattern [e* ...]
+   #:with len (parse-vector-length #'(e* ...))
+   #:when (syntax-e #'len)
+   #:attr vector-length #'len)
+))
+
 (define-syntax (define-vector: stx)
   (syntax-parse stx
-   [(_ name:id v)
-    #:with len (parse-vector-length #'v)
-    #:when (syntax-e #'len)
+   [(_ name:id v:literal-vector)
     (free-id-table-set! id+vector-length
                         #'name
-                        (syntax-e #'len))
+                        (syntax-e #'v.vector-length))
     #'(define name v)]
    [(_ e* ...)
     #'(define e* ...)]))
 
+(define-syntax (let-vector: stx)
+  (syntax-parse stx
+   [(_ ([name:id v:literal-vector]) e* ...)
+    #'(let ([name v])
+        (let-syntax ([name (make-rename-transformer
+                             (syntax-property #'name
+                                              vector-length-key
+                                              #'v.vector-length))])
+          e* ...))]
+   [(_ e* ...)
+    #'(let e* ...)]))
+
+(define-for-syntax (vector-ref-error v i reason)
+  (raise-argument-error
+    errloc-key
+    (format "Index out-of-bounds: ~a" i)
+    v))
+
+
+(define-syntax (vector-ref: stx)
+  (syntax-parse stx
+   [(_ v i:nat)
+    #:when (printf "ref: getting langth for ~a\n" (syntax->datum #'v))
+    #:with len (parse-vector-length #'v)
+    #:when (printf "ref: got langth ~a\n" (syntax->datum #'len))
+    #:when (syntax-e #'len)
+    (unless (< (syntax-e #'i) (syntax-e #'len))
+      (vector-ref-error (syntax-e #'v) (syntax-e #'i)))
+    (syntax/loc stx (unsafe-vector-ref v i))]
+   [(_ e* ...)
+    (syntax/loc stx (vector-ref e* ...))]))
+
+;; -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
 ;; Assume `stx` is creating a vector; get the length of the vector to-be-made
 (define-for-syntax (parse-vector-length stx)
-  (syntax-parse stx #:literals (vector make-vector build-vector)
-   [(~or '#(e* ...)
-         #(e* ...)
-         ;; TODO #{} #[] #6{} ...
-         (vector e* ...))
-    (length (syntax->list #'(e* ...)))]
-   [(make-vector n:nat e* ...)
-    (syntax-e #'n)]
-   [(build-vector n:nat f)
-    (syntax-e #'n)]
-   [_ #f]))
+  (cond
+   [(syntax-property stx vector-length-key)
+    => (lambda (x) x)]
+   [(identifier? stx)
+    (free-id-table-ref id+vector-length stx #f)]
+   [else
+     (syntax-parse stx #:literals (vector make-vector build-vector)
+      [(~or '#(e* ...)
+            #(e* ...)
+            ;; TODO #{} #[] #6{} ...
+            (vector e* ...))
+       (length (syntax->list #'(e* ...)))]
+      [(make-vector n:nat e* ...)
+       (syntax-e #'n)]
+      [(build-vector n:nat f)
+       (syntax-e #'n)]
+      [_ #f])]))
+